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call today or visit your local walgreens. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." president obama has put house speaker john boehner and republicans in a box on fiscal cliff negotiations. and the evidence is mounting. president obama stayed on offense today, visiting the santana family in northern virginia whose taxes will go up more than $4,000 in 2013 if middle class tax cuts aren't extended. >> i'm encouraged to see that there's been some discussion on the part of republicans acknowledging the need for additional revenue. as i've indicated, the only way to get the kind of revenue for a balanced deficit reduction plan is to make sure that we're also modestly increasing rates for people who can afford it. folks like me. just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. >> the concerted effort from the white house is very clear. here's white house press secretary jay carney. >> what will produce a deal is an acknowledgement by republicans, republican leaders, that rates on the top 2%, the wealthiest americans, hav
go over the so-called fiscal live, and even after president obama and speaker boehner met for the first time in over a month we still appear to be no closer to a deal. but over the weekend, for the first time both sides did seem to be softening the edges of their ideological swords. today in detroit the president continued his campaign-style push for congress to pass tax breaks for those below $250,000 and allow tax breaks for the wealthy to expire. >> a lot of people are putting forth a theory, and i actually think it has merit where you go and give the president the 2% increase that he's talking about, the rate increase on the top 2%. so there is a growing body. i actually am beginning to believe that is the best route for to us to take. >> in my view we all agree that we're not going to raise taxes on people who make less than $250,000. we should just take them out of the discussion right now. >> i think if it got to the floor it would carry. >> eliot: as the republicans begin to come around on the tax rates democrats have become open to limited entitlement reform. ther
. >> great to see you, chris. >> so are talks going on between speaker boehner and president obama, in a way does it make it seem like con are gres gress is irrelevant. jeff sessions has repeatedly made the point and i want to play something for you that he said yesterday. >> we all know what the plan is, what the scheme is, the strategy is. it is to be meeting in secret and then plop down on the floor of the senate at the last hour, some sort of coerced agreement that all of the senators like lemmings are supposed to vote for. >> is that what is going on here? some coerced agreement that you're going to have to vote for? >> i wouldn't describe it as a coerced agreement. but you can't have 500 people in the room negotiating an agreement. so, yes, we have our leadership, they sit down with the president, they hammer out a deal, they come back to us. our opportunity for input in this process is with our leadership. we have caucuses multiple times each week. we express to our leaders, this is what we want to see. this is what we will support. we do not want to see action on this or be pressed o
back to "hardball." there was a hint of movement on the fiscal cliff deal between president obama and speaker boehner yesterday. here's where things stand for now. the white house sent over a proposal that lowered the revenue target for the president obama from $1.6 trillion to $1.6 trillion. he also increased spending cuts to $600 billion. so you have three things he's moving on there. speaker boehner was not impressed sending over his original offer of $800 billion in revenue. by the way that was the number last summer, summer of '11. acknowledged there's a long way to go. let's listen to him. >> i remain the most optimistic person in this town, but we've got some serious differences. the president and i had a pretty frank conversation about just how far apart we are. >> and in an interview with barbara walters, the president held firm and said time is running out. >> taxes are going to go up one way or the other. and i think the key is to make sure that taxes go up on the high end individuals like you and me, barbara. we can afford it. it is entirely possible for us to come up
that president obama and speaker john boehner on the republican side of the capitol had a conference call yesterday about 20, 28 minutes in length. we don't know what was said. that's probably a good sign they are not leaking the contents of that call. that's a sign that there is some negotiation going on. something is happening behind the scenes but we just don't know what it is right now. back to you. >> eamon javers, thank you very much. >>> what can be done to break the stalemate in washington? representative jack kingston is a republican from georgia, member of the house appropriations committee. welcome, congressman. good to have you with us. >> thank you, tyler. >> we had the images yesterday of congress leaving for a long weekend. i have to say that it struck an awful lot of us as very poor sort of pr, very bad optics, if you want to use that term. you're still there in washington. why? and what do you think about the fact that congress went home? >> well, i'm actually doing some committee work but i will say this, that this debate is both inside and outside of the town. outside i
's probably the best way to describe the fiscal talks between president obama and house speaker john boehner. with christmas less than two weeks away, the white house is faced with the same key question. can boehner deliver the votes for whatever deal they agree on? >> i remain optimistic and i'm pretty confident that republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high income individuals. >> but with time running out, neither side seems to have budged very far from the original proposal. the only good news about what happened in the past 24 hours, they are not publicly trashing each other's proposals. on monday the white house sent boehner a counteroffer which at beast can be incremental movement. almost on the details of the offer are under wraps. the $1.6 trillion in tax revenue the president was demanding can come down to slightly under 1.4 trillion. it's still $600 billion higher than the republican position. in a signal to the president in his conference, basically said the president's counteroffer was uncut. >> where are the president's spending cu
. interesting. president obama and speaker boehner. nobody else. with 24 days before a year-end deadline, "the new york times" says boehner made the request to clear the negotiation room going forward, leaving it up to himself and the president to reach a deal to avoid automatic tax hikes and deep spending cuts. and while the two men may be negotiating privately, yesterday the president took his message to the public, visiting a local virginia family as a part of his my2k social media campaign, sitting around the kitchen table. he told the family he was optimistic. >> the message that i think we all want to send to members of congress is, this is a solvable problem. the senate has already passed a bill that would make sure the middle-class taxes don't go up next year by a single dime. just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is good for families like this one and that is good for the american economy. >> what great news, i think. don't you think so
obama and house speaker john boehner brokering a deal. very much the way you saw they attempted to do during the debt ceiling debacle last year. it simplifies the problem of less cooks in the kitchen. then they will have to sell it. president obama would have to bring in democrats. john boehner would have to bring in his republicans and make sure everyone is on board. this comes on the heels of what has really been radio silence between the white house and house republicans. we found out yesterday, we were told by both sides that the lines of communication are back open on the staff level. i will tell you that's kind of fun funny to anyone here covering all this because normally the lines of communication are always open, but that was news yesterday. >> sad thing. it's all relative. let me ask you about what seemed to be a crazy thing that senator mitch mcconnell was trying to do that ended up backfiring on him pretty badly. >> reporter: some theatrics. the debt ceiling, it's set to be hit in january or february. that's complicating the fiscal cliff discussions. mitch mcconnell yester
negotiations appear to be at a standstill, we know president obama and house speaker john boehner finally spoke by phone yesterday. the first conversation in a week. we don't know what they talked about or how long they spoke, because both men agreed to keep details of the conversation between the two of them. meanti meantime, democrats are digging in heels saying no deem if republicans refuse to let go of tax cuts for the wealthy. >> it's really time for republicans to face reality. i would hope the house of representatives would look closely at what's going on with senators coming out saying please, mr. speaker, do something about protecting the middle class. >>
players, president obama and house speaker john boehner. joining me for our daily fix, nbc's david gregory moderator of "meet the press" and chris cizilla, msnbc contributor and managing editor of post politics.com. david, you've been on the hill talking to a lot of people. what is your sense? we hear john boehner saying no progress. >> right. >> is this all just a lot of shadow boxing right now? >> i think it's a lot of shadow boxing. i've gotten a clear impression of is that republicans are in a position to give on tax rates, if, and i keep underlining a big if, if they can get the white house to deal on entitlements. they have to get something for their members. enough public sentiment saying give up on the tax breaks to get a bigger deal. the president could muscle through the tax rates on his own. risks on his side. why not force him into a position where they can get sort of a bigger deal. here's what i thought was important. republicans saying to me that, you know, last july when we had the debt debacle, the feeling was don't give the president a success, don't give him a big victor
serious about solving this problem. >> but president obama says john boehner's presence is not the solution, it's the problem. >> the holdup right now is that speaker boehner took a position, you think the day after the campaign, that said, we're willing to bring in revenue, but we're not willing to increase rates. and i've just explained to you why we don't think that works. >> senate majority leader harry reid has also called republicans out for sabotaging the democratic process. now, putting this all into context, he tweeted out today, harry reid did, "i share the frustration of americans lamenting the lack of progress in negotiations to avoid a massive tax increase on middle class families. but for insight into why negotiations have been tough, consider the failure of the disabilities treaty at the hands of the tea party. those are the same republicans with whom democrats are supposed to find agreement to protect middle class families from a january 1st tax increase?" who could say it better? democrats are not being unreasonable here whatsoever. they are the party of
are happy to have. >> a house aide said president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke on3 the phone yesterday afternoon, their first conversation a week and since republicans offered $800 billion in new tax revenue and more than a trillion dollars in spending cuts, republicans say they're still waiting on a counter offer from the white house. lori: i wonder if they're talking football. >> it got messy. melissa: the house may be sending the members home t for e president seems to think if they got down to business, it is an easy fix. melissa: we can probably solve this in about a week. melissa: piece of cake. he thinks it is too late to get anything done before the end of the year as both sides are too far apart on key issues. joining us now, financial economist at jefferies. we think it is too late, we're going over the cliff. how come? >> not enough time to address all the issues that need to be addressed. especially they will talk o on a phone only once per week. it has been some progress on the tax cut side in terms of tax reform that could raise a type of revenue that we are goi
't a progress report bauds there's no progress to report. >> today's news, speaker boehner and president obama will be the only two at the table to make a deal. i'll ask emanuel cleaver if boehner can get it done. >>> 33 months of private sector job growth. now is the time to start spending on jobs. david cay johnston is here. >>> the filibuster is more than an embarrassing blunder. bernie sanders explains why. >>> the right to work in michigan has ignited a fire storm with workers. we'll have the latest on rick snider's race to the bottom. >>> and breaking news from the supreme court. there will be a decision on the constitutionality of same-sex marriage. law professor jonathan terly has all the details. >> thanks for watching. john boehner isn't having a lot of fun this holiday season. president obama continues his pressure campaign to pass the tax cuts. the president is also taking time to be fesive. john boehner doesn't sound so merry. >> no progress report because there's no progress to report. when it comes to the fis e call cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the
corporate tax rates and that is something that speaker boehner and president obama are fairly symbiotic gone. the point being they're really trying to set the stage to get ready to move right away and just trying to push forward tax reform which does not happen very often. it would be a once in a generation thing to actually open up the tax code and really revise it. host: last time they did that was 1986. is this the opening act for the main performance over taxes? guest: a lot of people. but like that and you already see the conversation that are already happening by the chairman of the committee that would be running battery right. host: fred from gramercy, louisiana. good morning. go ahead. caller: i have had a job since i was roughly 14 or 15 years old. i paid social security and i paid in to medicare. i don't understand why they don't leave these programs alone. when a person passes away, if the family qualifies, they get death benefits of $255. if they want to keep what their parents or grandparents had come and they have to pay inheritance tax. i don't understand why they don't leave
. speaker boehner says he is waiting on president obama to outline spending cuts. this is kind of a strange thing for the speaker to say. president obama outlined specific cuts in his proposal to the republicans. republicans have not offered anything specific in cuts whatsoever. and nothing specific in revenue whatsoever. all generalizations. republicans want more spending cuts. tell us what you want, we say to them. we cannot read their minds. we will not make a proposal for them. they know that we are willing to make tough choices on these issues. i hope they understand by now that we will look out for the middle class first. illinois standing in the way of an agreement is republicans. -- the only thing standing in the way of an agreement is republicans. there is a lot of bluster coming from the republicans about society kremlin quickly. every day -- crumbling quickly. they are calling on the speaker to let tax rates rise. yesterday it was coburn. today was another. he said he would take raising rates are the top 2 bracket -- and went on with other things he wanted. he wants the rates to
obama has been clear about it all along. >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. you know, he talks, for example, about $800 billion worth of revenues, but he says he's going to do that by lowering rates. and when you look at the pamath it doesn't work. >> you see, if we lower these rates, then the job creators will go out there end and all this money to hire a bunch of people, and that's going to contribute more to the tax base. and gosh, we're just going to take care of all of our problems. we have tried this stuff, and it didn't work. when leaders mcconnell and boehner feed the base, it makes it harder for them to come around and later on lead their members towards a sane deal with the president of the united states and democrats who, by the way, won the election. let's bring in former virginia congressman, tom perriello, now the president and ceo of the center for american progress action fund. tom, good to have you with us tonight. >> always good to be here. >> you bet. have republican leaders boxed themselves in by catering to this fringe element
wants to be in, but talks have completely dried up. yesterday speaker john boehner and president obama did not speak and their staffs did not speak. so really this thing is at a standstill like we've never seen before. >> yeah. so the fact that we're not even talking now. the aides aren't even talking the each other. where does that leave us? how comfortable is everybody with this? when are they going to restart speaking? >> house republicans released their own proposal a couple days ago, which they thought made major concessions in offering up new tax revenue, which the party hasn't really done in decades. the president and his advisers immediately said that that was not a proposal worth considering. so really what we're waiting for is a counteroffer from the white house. the white house has to react in some way to this offer from house republicans. they haven't done that yet. so we're kind of waiting for that. republicans say the ball is in his court. listen, the president is still the president. he has to invite house republicans to the white house. he has to make that move to get t
if there is an agreement between speaker boehner and president obama, it is not clear it will be acceptable. host: david is on the phone from york, pennsylvania, republican line, good morning. caller: i'm calling from arkansas, actually. i am an attorney and i've tried to watch the actions of this president. i take into consideration the books he read and he uses the philosophers who taught him as he grew up. i really believe that based on the way he is trying -- that based on the way he has been trained, i think the president wants to go over the cliff because that will achieve the things he was buried he wants to break up the republican party. he wants to break its back and then he also wants to go over the cliff because he wants to have a financial crisis because if you look at the study, that is the only way he can really achieve the type of social and fiscal non-responsibility he wants to achieve. that is break the back of the economy and then we have a crisis. and then he will come in and fix it. it is a very socialist way that will be unacceptable to most americans accept the slivers of the ameri
a few moments ago president obama and house speaker john boehner did meet face-to-face yesterday at the white house to talk about the fiscal cliff. both sides mum on any details simply releasing statements saying that the lines of communication are open. it is now down to the wire for some something to happen that lawmakers can approve. there still needs to be enough time for the house and senate to review the legislation to debate it and possibly to pass it. we're back after the break. >> that's hilarious! >> ...and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there's wiggle-room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. ... and current will let me say anything. >> only on current tv. [ male announcer ] red lobster's hitting the streets to tell real people about our new 15 under $15 menu. oh my goodness! oh my gosh this looks amazing! [ male announcer ] our new maine stays! 15 entrees under $15 seafood, chicken and more! oo! the tilapia with roasted vegetables! i'm actually looking at the wood grilled chicken
ago president obama and house speaker john boehner did meet face-to-face yesterday at the white house to talk about the fiscal cliff. both sides mum on any details simply releasing statements saying that the lines of communication are open. it is now down to the wire for some something to happen that lawmakers can approve. there still needs to be enough time for the house and senate to review the legislation to debate it and possibly to pass it. we're back after the break. jennifer >>>> it's these "talking points" that the right have about "the heavy hand of government". i want to have that conversation. let's talk about it. really. really! that you're gonna lay people off because now the government's going to help you fund your health care. really? i wanna be able to have those conversations. not just to be confrontational, but to understand what the other side is saying. and you know, i'd like to arm our viewers with the ability to argue with their conservative uncle joe over the dinner table. ♪ ♪ the trucks are going farther. the new 2013 ram 15
of moving parts today, senator, in the capitol. speaker boehner coming out at 11:00 a.m. saying no progress to talk about. we don't know if nancy pelosi will be speaking later on today at noon. we know president obama will be speaking. does this misstep that we were just talking about, does it hurt? is this just mcconnell really just trying to get his say into this process? >> you know, richard, i don't think so. i actually think senator mcconnell's proposal was a pretty good one regardless of who is president. president obama or then governor romney. the notion that this country every 12, 14 month is going to have this hostage taking by congress over a debt ceiling is not a way to run, you know, the largest enterprise in the world, the united states government. there's nothing in the constitution that talks about a debt ceiling. this has become kind of in the past a pro forma process that has now turned into a financial armageddon each time it comes about and i do think granting the president these additional rights and then allowing congress with a two-thirds vote to say, hold on here, th
will be blamed. remember, this is the obama era. it's going to go down as his economy. i ask people who was speaker of the house during the great depression when roosevelt was president. i'll give a hundred dollars to anyone who can name who the speaker of the house was in the critical first hundred days -- >> jim over there would know. >> henry thomas reigny. now, there's a name in the history books. point being, the speaker is an important player, this is significant, but it is obama's job to lead and define so if there's negative consequences here, particularly in the economy, it's going to be in the obama era, things didn't get fixed. who is it? the australian finance minister who says the united states is one budget deal away from being a great country. there's a lot of people in business who think we are poised to do some really good things in the global economy, the united states is, but if we can't untangle this mess, it's not going to happen. >> you know about the inner workings in the government more than any living person, every single administration of our lifetime. you've b
or not speaker boehner can deliver votes. the thing that a lot of people worry about in private is him and obama will cut a deal in late december negotiations. but boehner has been making tough calls. when it comes down to it he's going to agree to something with the president and it is not going to be able to pass his own conference. do you have any sense of what you think he's able to do and not do at this point? >> we come back again to the entitlement question. it's going to be easier for the caucus to swallow some tax rate increase if they have something to show for it. and the irony here, on a whole variety of issue, the democrats should be in favor of certain kinds of entitlement reforms. it's not actually that big of a give. on social security, as an example, democrats have won for the time being on privatization being completely off the table. there's a strong argument for trying to lock that in now as oppose eed to waiting and having that potentially come back. in addition, one of the big concerns here is doing too much fiscal austerity too soon. the more you did in the form of social
will have to concede a deal largely on obama's terms and the question is when. >> professor peterson, one is almost tempted to feel sorry for speaker boehner. his party lost the presidential election, they failed to swin the senate, the jobs numbers continue to improve, the president is adamant he's not going to concede over raising taxes. is speaker boehner now on the wrong side of history? >> well, his entire party on a lot of issues is on the wrong side of history. we don't feel sorry for him because we're making progress economically as a nation. that's very, very important. and the issues that we are going to address with this sort of fiscal cliff, fiscal slope, hill, wharf you want to call it are going to be very, very important issues. i want to clear one things up. the republicans wants to talk about deductions all the time. one of the key distinctions between letting the taxes go up a little bit on the 2% versus trying to find this money through deductions, is the fact when we're talking about capping deductions, that's something that's going to impact middle class families and m
with the speaker of the house on that? >> unfortunately, wolf, the policies of president obama have already taken us over the cliff. if you meet with businesses like i do all the time, they've already paired back plans for next year anticipating what's going to happen. we can fix this christmas eve if we want, but we've already hurt the economy and job growth. >> are you with boehner? >> i'm not with boehner. this government doesn't need anymore money. this country needs less government. we're going to have historic levels of revenue to the government this year. >> everyone's taxes are going up at the end of the year if there's no deal. >> we have already offered to extend current tax rates. that's what we should have done six months ago until we could come to some agreement, some compromise on tax reform. >> when you say compromise, where are you ready to compromise as far as taxes are concerned? >> how we go about tax reform, there's a lot of room to work together to lower the rates. >> give me an example? >> i'm not sure where the democrats are because they have not offered a plan. >> their pl
page. president obama rejected the latest proposal from john boehner. the president and the democrats are focused on revenue and they are determined to make sure that the top tax rates go up. >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks, for example, about $800 billion worth of revenues, but he says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> harry reid wasted no time explaining why the boehner proposal is not serious. >> math. you can't get from here to there unless you raise the rates. that's why romney couldn't explain it during the presidential election. no one can explain it because you can't do it. >> jay carney says the speaker's plans raises more questions than answers. >> we don't know who pays. we don't know what we're talking about in terms of actual legislation to increase revenues. it's magic beans and fairy dust. >> john boehner's heavy-handed approach to leadership, boehner and the republican steering committee kicked four republican congressmen out of their committee seats for voting ag
to get more money from wealthy people. president obama, you know the deal, he wants to raise tax rates for the wealthy. house speaker john boehner wants to close tax loopholes, limit deductions for the wealthy. let's stay on the hill here, let's talk to senior congressional correspondent dana bash. we know the speaker -- we know speaker boehner met with conservative republicans today. did he get any backlash today from his plan? >> reporter: you know what, interestingly it doesn't seem like he did. we know that conservatives are not happy with the idea that their own house republican leadership proposed a plan that includes $800 billion in new revenue. we have seen -- reported on it extensively yesterday and the day before about the e-mail alerts that conservative groups have put out, republican senator jim demint was up-front about the fact he's not happy about it. however, when it comes to speaker boehner's own republican conference, as it is called, we're told they met for an hour and there wasn't backlash, that they were united behind him. it seems as though, brooke, that the speak
shows republicans will be blamed. but remember, this is the obama era. it's going to go down in his economy. i asked people, who was speaker of the house during the great depression when roosevelt was president? i'll give a hundred dollars to anyone who can name for the speaker of the house was in the critical first hundred days. [inaudible] henry thomas remy. there's a name in the history books. point being speaker boehner is an important player in the sense that they can't, but it's upon this job to lead and define. so if there's negative consequences here, particularly in the economy, it's going to be in the obama era things didn't get fixed. who is the australian finance minister who said the united states is one budget deal away from being a great country? there's a lot of people in business suits inc. we are poised to do some really good things in the global economy of the united states but if we can't untangle this mass, it's not going to happen. >> you more about the inner workings of our government than any living person. every single administration of our lifetime. you've
? >> speaker boehner said he's willing to raise revenue. his method is simplify the tax code, eliminating the deductions wealthy people take advantage of. president obama is less interested in that. his emphasis is raising rates. that's been the debate. republicans may or may not concede on that. as you said, they don't have a lot of leverage. if they do nothing, if no law passes, they go over the fiscal cliff. >> that raises the issue. you are talking what a disaster the medicare eligibility portion of this would be, do you look at the compromise of 37%, if you could get something more favorable on medicare, would you say going up to 37% instead of 39.6 is enough? >> no. look, there was a tax plan and we looked at the discussion of keeping the rates at the level and reforming the tax code and dealing with deductions. the truth is, if you want to have significant deficit reduction, which republicans are arguing for and you want to stabilize the debt, we need significant revenue. we need to -- the real challenge we have is we are not raising revenue. it's at the lowest levels it's been in
the debt limit in march. that is what speaker boehner uses as his leverage to a year and a half ago in his talks with president obama. i think there's a belief on the party democrats that they like to get this idea into come circulation. and they also want to manufacture some dialogue that the debt ceiling is not really the kind of leverage it was a year and a half ago. and you saw some of that from the president yesterday when -- or last week when he was talking about that he is not going to play that game may more. there is some of that. it turns out that the democrats would have enough votes to pass it through the senate. instead, senator mcconnell insisted that it requires 60 to get past the filibuster. >> on the republican side, how would a vote on either the fiscal cliff or raising the debt ceiling help the gop make their case? i am not entirely sure that it would. i am not sure hal and effective issue it would be pure >> the houses out now -- it would be. >> the house is out now. >> there is no public indication. you talk with some senators who yesterday were saying that not a lot i
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